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Friday, 12 February 2010

The truth and Danger About The Word Faith Heresy Movement



This movement is so seriously dangerous that I just have to paste everything here as taken from the link below This movement will be better understood if I mention Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Joyce Meyer, Oral Roberts and Morris Cerrullo are just a few of the many well known names who belong to it. Generally are known as the prosperity and slain in the spirit preachers.


Please read the section that talks about the origins of Word Faith (i.e, from Scientology  - a recognised cult) and their cultish views of the "non" atonement of Jesus.  It is full of error and abuse of clear scriptural teaching. We should always compare scripture with scripture and never ignore any parts of scripture, as all scripture is inspired by God. It is worth looking at their view of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. It is "another Jesus" they preach. They are not a sect but a heretical cult. I have thoroughly investigated this cult from my own experiences of them and from those I know to a full extensive search from a vast number of reputable websites. If you don't believe me, check it out yourself. http://www.thechristianexpositor.org/page7.html


THE WORD FAITH MOVEMENT
Who are the Leaders of the Word-Faith Movement?  


Monday, 6 December 2010

List Of (Probable) False Christian Leaders, False Christian Teachers and False Prophets (As Indicated By The Ecumenical or Heretical Organisations They Belong To)



Watch Out
Wolves in Sheep's Clothing








Last edited: 22 Aug 2011 (see in red)
Previously edited:
  • 24 Jan 2011           updated list
  • 10 Dec 2010          added details
  • 7 & 12 Jan 2011   further explanations added (see below in bold).
Further Explanations 7 Jan 2011 and 3 Aug 2016
From the responses I've continuously received since this article was written until today (3rd Aug 2016), it seems that readers have not noticed my introduction of this article. I DO explain here the reasons for this article. However, just to let you know that I have answered the criticisms within the comments section of this article and have also written other articles as answers to these criticisms. Please click on these following 2 shortcut links to read them:

 link 1

link 2

Original Article (note: edited 22 Aug 2011 in red):
This is a continuation to Part 2 of a series regarding the history behind the recent apostate evangelical church. Please click on this shortcut link Background To Why The Twentieth Century Evangelical Church Became Apostate to read the introduction regarding the lists below and  afterwards click on Chronological Emergence Of The Apostate Church Over Last 100 Years  to see the continuation ie  part 3.

Jesus said that we should watch out for false prophets. He stated that we would know them by their fruits. The context of Matthew 7 indicates He is referring mostly to the WORDS they speak. For more on this please click on this shortcut link Do Not Judge, But Watch Out For False Prophets, Matthew 7 Explanation


We are instructed to not judge the motives of the heart in 1 Corinthians 4:4-5 but we are taught to watch out for false teaching. Therefore, I cannot produce a list of false teachers/prophets based on behaviour (because behaviour can easily be misunderstood) but I can produce a list based on false teaching. However, as I do not know 100% what each individual teaches it is rather difficult to measure if a person is false or not. BUT  we do have plenty of information about false heretical organisations (available to us) including what they teach. So, presumably any leaders of those organisations will teach and practice those false things. So my list reflects this. I wanted to make everyone aware of the leaders who are attached to these false groups.

The first list contains all the organisations that have led the church down the road of the apostate and are all ecumenical groups. The second list contains the names of all the leaders or leading characters who belong to or associate with these groups  (see note below regarding what I mean by "associate with"). The list does not mean that absolutely everybody listed is definitely a false leader, false teacher or false prophet, but there should be serious concern because of the faulty organisations they: belong to, associate with (see note below re "associate"), work for, endorse and support.


Updated 10 Dec 2010
However, it is always possible that some individuals may be ignorant about the groups they speak at, associate with or endorse. Some of these leaders may have regretted it later or even withdrawn their names (if possible). I would be more concerned if these people still deliberately JOIN these groups (or remain with them) even though the groups have been exposed as being apostate and ecumenical.  Although, we should be careful not to be too harsh on those who are only linked to one group, as they may have done this in ignorance. However, those who are attached to, or involved in, more than one group should cause us extra concern.


Added 12 Jan 2011
What I mean by "associate with"
If a church leader is simply having fellowship with another teacher (from one of those organisations) without endorsing or teaching their doctrines, that is okay, but if they start joining in with that ecumenical group (in a unification process) and lead their church down that path of joining those groups or teaching the ecumenical doctrine, then this is a bad association. It is this type of association that I am warning against. So, if teachers, leaders and prophets are encouraging believers (by their association with those groups and what they teach in support of them)  to join these ecumenical or new age groups, then their association is cause of concern. Also, my meaning of association is referring to individuals who have signed their allegiance to ecumenical groups like Westminster Declaration  and Manhattan Declaration. Everyone listed has absolutely associated (*in a bad sense) with an ecumenical or new age infected organisation (or both).


Additional Info:
By the way, I have just realised an interesting fact and will be writing something on this in due course.  I will just say something briefly now.  Many leaders (amongst the groups mentioned) were first trained or lectured at Fullers Theological Seminary. This Seminary  majors on Church growth, but is strongly ecumenical with new age ideas. Therefore, it is not surprising that the new brand of church leaders (which it produces) would emerge leading our churches in the same direction. So, it appears, that Fullers are a major reason for the evangelical church's speedy fall into increasing apostasy (apostasy means falling away from the truth into heresy).


Anyway, here are the full lists of all the heretical ecumenical organisations (within the "evangelical" umbrella) and its individual leading associates (as they stand at the moment on 18 Jan 2011) as follows:

Sunday, 26 September 2010

Why Word Faith Organisation is a Cult and is Detrimental To Your Faith, Mind And Soul

Edited 24 Aug 2011 (see very bottom for the edited section, which includes a link to even better videos)


This article has been written in response to an email I received. This is what this person wrote:

Question:“We pray that we get lots of money, riches etc but didn’t Jesus say that it is very difficult or as good as impossible for a rich man to enter heaven? Will such prayers be answered? Many missionaries promise to offer prayers for our riches etc,  for a minimum donation to them or they say send in a certain amount for a years wellness or prosperity. For that amount they will pray for a years wellness. Is that okay?"

Answer: First, I would like to say that the true Christian Church do not teach such terrible things because they are not taught in the Bible. The Organisation which teach these things are called “Word Faith”.

In answer to your first question: we should never pray for riches. We cannot expect God to say yes to such selfish prayers. Jesus does instruct us that we can include prayer for our daily needs, but mostly our prayer should centre on God's Will and purposes, glorifying and praising Him. Certainly NOT praying for riches.  Jesus said “seek first the kingdom of God ”Matthew 6:33 and “he who loves his life will lose it, but he who loses his life for my sake, will find it” John 12:25 and Matthew 10:38-39.

Jesus is saying 

Thursday, 20 January 2011

Chronological Emergence Of The Apostate Church Over Last 100 Years



Edited 27 Jan, 6 Feb, 17 Aug, 7 Nov 2011 and 1 April 2012
(for 17 Aug, edit see 3 videos added under Word Faith section)


This is Part  3 of a series looking into how (many strands of) the protestant evangelical Church became apostate over the last 100 years.This part 3 is not completed yet but due to various reasons I feel I need to display something now. I will add to it in due course, but I hope you find this helpful, for now.  To see part 1 and 2 please click these shortcut links:
Part 1   Why Dominion and Kingdom Now Theology Leads The Church Down The Same Road To Apostasy As Pursued By Rome
Part 2   Background To Why The Twentieth Century Evangelical Church Became Apostate


We will now look at the chronological emergence of the apostate church over the first half of the last one hundred years, through the influences of men like William Branham, EW Kenyon and Kenneth Hagan.


These men, whose false  "Christian" gnostic (now known as New Age) teachings and their unhealthy over focus on the supernatural and angelic experiences, became the forerunners to the Latter Rain and Word Faith movements. We will look at the origins of these two movements with a brief description of their main false teachings and their key objectives. We will also look at the subsequent and initial organisations which arose (at that time). 

These movements are the basis and links which led to the introduction of all other apostate  "Christian" organisations (which are ecumenical and new age). They are both very similar in their teachings. They both emphasise replacementism, the global reign of the church BEFORE Jesus returns (Kingdom Now Dominionism), restoration of the 5 fold ministry and the New Age idea and the satanic lie that we can all become like God by becoming little gods. They both emphasise power supernatural  ministry and talk much about angelic visitations.

Please read Colossians 2:18  and 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 which expose these "experiences" as unscriptural
First, here is a brief chronological sequence of 

Sunday, 31 January 2010

Word Faith Preachers Are False, An Example

I found this testimony of an ex follower of Word Faith: their experiences and lessons learnt. It should be a stark warning to us all.

Testimony of a Joyce Meyer FollowerTestimony left at Pulpit Pimps here.

A few years ago, I supported Joyce Meyer with everything I had. I regarded her as a true, down to earth, sincere, and prosperous role model. I hung on every word that came out of her mouth as if they were the words of God straight to me. I never missed a show, and if I did, I watched her internet broadcasts. When she held her conferences in my area, I went to see her in person. I would do as she said to prove my commitment to God and take vacation days and drive 3 hours to Tulsa to see her preach at the ORU campus and drive 3 hours back home, justifying myself to God by reminding Him of these sacrifices.

Talking about sacrifice, not only did I give up a day’s pay to see her, but it was nothing for me to sacrifice $100 or more into the white buckets they’d pass around as offering plates, knowing all along that I’d have to sacrifice again when I didn’t have that money to pay a bill with! That, in addition to the hundreds of dollars I’d send her through the mail every month! In the typical Word of Faith (Wof) fashion, I would then go to God in “prayer” and tell Him what He had to do (you [God] MUST keep your word; you MUST provide ‘pressed down, shaken-together’ etc; if I delight myself in you, you MUST give me the desire of my heart, ad nausea!).

That’s NOT praying! When a WoF preacher “prays” by saying “we bind you Satan, we come against all the powers of darkness, we rebuke all poverty and lack” etc, they are NOT praying to God! They are talking to the devil and speaking as if they were God Himself. It is NOT prayer. But I digress.

I absolutely LOVED Joyce Meyer! But God had other plans for me. I was DEEP into the Word of Faith . It was all I had ever known all my life. My grandmother latched onto the seed faith teachings of Oral Roberts back when it first came out. She taught my mother in the ways of the WoF, and my mother in turn taught us the same way!  

Tuesday, 18 November 2014

Rick Warren and Word of Faith's Full Apostasy Is Complete. Mystery Babylon Is Taking Even Greater Shape Before Our Eyes

My last article:

God is NOW Sending Us a Last Warning that the Rapture of the Church, Followed By the Great Tribulation Is VERY Close at Hand. Strong Evidence Given

showed the evidence and signs of how very close we are to the rapture of the church and to the last 7 years before the Second Coming (which includes the worst time ever on planet Earth).

It also showed how Rick Warren will be joining the pope with other faith's religious leaders in the Vatican this month. In fact, I also show another video at the bottom of this article, showing Rick's adoration of the Pope, saying that anyone who likes this pope, will certainly love Jesus.

This article now provides even further evidence that the rapture and Second Coming are extremely close by looking at the way that the apostasy of vast parts of evangelical and protestant Christianity has increased within the last year or so.
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What follows is absolutely shocking.

On many of this blog's articles it gives evidence that the Word of Faith organisation was originally set up by Rome's agents using it to infiltrate protestant/evangelical churches by pretending to be protestant evangelical preachers. The blog mentions how the Word of Faith leaders are ecumenical, working with Rome and warned us to reject Word of Faith and come out of it.

Well I now have the absolute proof of their intentions and allegiances on 3 videos below (re Jan 2014) and as indicated on the above photos which was taken some time after that event.

I have now been made aware of something which happened at the beginning of this year, which is another massive step towards the apostasy of large parts of the charismatic section of protestantism joining Rome and therefore the strengthening of  mystery Babylon - the one world global. religion. Word of Faith, parts of NAR and the Emerging Church/Seeker Sensitive movement (through Rick Warren) have now bowed the knee to Rome by declaring their absolute allegiance in unity.

The second video is of Kenneth Copeland leading a Word of Faith conference for all the leaders of that organisation early this year in which the Pope and Word of faith made an open declaration of unity with Rome. In fact the response from Kenneth was astounding and looks very much like he was actually praying to the pope, by blessing and praising him and offering themselves with all their might. At one point in his prayer it was like he suddenly realised what it looked like and paused to change the tone: "we thank you sir (pause......) we thank God for you". You can find it from the 43m:39s point.

The first video is of Tony Palmer who is a very close friend of Pope Francis working as the Pope's "Elijah" to bring protestants back to the Catholic Church. Tony declares

Thursday, 17 June 2010

Menu Listing All My Postings (with Shortcut Links) As At 30 Nov 2011

List Revised  30 Nov 2011
The purpose of this article is to to provide a contents menu to aid speedy access to ALL the articles on this blog without having to waste too much time searching for older posts. I felt I needed to do this as I (myself) found it hard to find specific articles now that there are over 100 articles.

This menu lists all the individual articles under different headings.The sequence of this list (the headings and the articles) has been deliberately put together, this way and designed to be read from top to bottom, with each subsequent article relevant to what has been written before.  Every item listed gives its own shortcut link (right hand side) direct to the specific article and page you want to read. Please click on the link you want to read. The full list of articles is as follows:

Thursday, 22 July 2010

Would Fundamental Biblical Christians Have Crucified Jesus Too? (Hypothetically Speaking)

There is a BIG subtle (but very poisonous) lie being propagated by many "christian" leaders in order to "scare" Christians into being more open-minded and open-hearted than they should be, encouraging them to reach out more for experiences and not be too focused on the Bible. The lie to scare christians, is that those who are too focussed on the Bible (religious as they put it) or too zealous with "truth" ie "contending for the faith"  would be the very ones to crucify Jesus also if they lived at the same time of Jesus (hypothetically speaking).


They say that we are like the religious Jews who killed Jesus. They say that the scribes and Pharisees were too rigid in the scriptures that they were unable to accept Messiah when He came, so if we get too "religious" we too would have done the same thing. What utter nonsense! They couldn't recognise Messiah because they couldn't see "the forest for the trees". 


What I mean is that the Religious leaders were so caught up in scriptural commentaries (like the talmud, Midrash etc) and traditions of men, oral Law and rabbinical teachers (gurus?) etc that they were blind to the obvious references to the Messiah directly from the Tenach (Old testament). They were so caught up in these things that they (actually) did not directly know the Scriptures. Therefore, they were biassed towards expecting a specific messiah after their own imaginations. In fact their hearts became increasingly hardened towards Jesus because (as Jesus put it) they were wicked "of their father the devil" and stiff-necked, hardened hearts.

If they checked the scriptures  


Saturday, 20 August 2011

Word Of Faith Deception. Everything You Need To Know On Video


JUSTIN PETERS VIDEO SEMINAR
A Call For Discernment


Justin Peters has a specialised ministry on revealing the history, doctrines and the leaders of  the WORD of FAITH movement.

He has produced 3 very watchable videos. very skillfully presented. You cannot fail to realise the error of this movement after seeing these videos. If you are convinced (after watching) please spread the word to your contacts too.

You can view the entire Justin Peters Seminar here.    Each episode is over an hour long, so you may want to bookmark them for future viewing.  Enjoy!

Part One  Dangerous Doctrine (includes some history)


Part Two   Mangled Manifestations


Part Three  The Hurt Of Healing


I have written a number of other articles relating to Word Faith.  You can find them all speedily by clicking on the label "word faith" below (in red). To find the "labels"  just simply look at the 2nd line after the line which says "posted by John Chingford" which is immediately below this article.

Friday, 12 February 2010

Benny Hinn And His Shocking Letter Of Mammon Greediness

This is a part of a letter from Benny Hinn with his signature as proof it is from him.  Actually, it is not a new letter and has been on his website since 2008. See http://www.bennyhinn.org/articles/articledesc.cfm?id=638 

Basically he is clearly implying that Benny Hinn Ministries is the storehouse you should pay your tithes into. Or at least he is hoping that his supporters will pay their tithes to him as they are the ones who believe that Benny feeds them.


These Word of Faith preachers are always misquoting scripture to get you to send them money and try to put pressure on your conscience. They state "if you give, God will bless you and will not bless you if you don't give".


My bible teaches that God's love and grace is unconditional for the born-again Christian. Paying tithes is because we love God not because we want something in return. If we do it because we want something from God, it becomes a blessing due to our works. The New Testament is clear:  we are saved by Grace, we receive the Holy Spirit through Grace and we continue our walk with God through Grace - not of works!  This was his letter: 



Wednesday, 21 July 2010

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